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Like in all of the bike videos I've seen or when I see people doing wheelies on the street...I hear the engine smoothly revving and then all the sudden it like roars for a second the pitch changes...and the front comes up. Is this because the rider is clutching the bike for a split second to allow the engine to blip and then when he re-engages the clutch it is a different rev range and the front wheel is now in the air? I'm sure some of the vet stunters can answer this question. I don't hear litre bikes do this...but I don't think the litre bike riders are clutching up their wheelies either.

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I agree with both of you. My first streetbike wheelies were on a 1979 KZ650. It was not possible to throttle it up. Learned by rolling to about 25 mph, pulling in the clutch, reving to about 6 or 7 grand (redline was 9 grand), and dumping the clutch. It worked, but was a real ball buster, and things happened too fast to ride it out. As I got the feel of things, I began to get the feel of partially dragging the clutch, and feeding it in smoothly, as I pretty much maintained the rpm. Later I was able to shift into 2nd & 3rd gear, and I did clutch between gears, but very quickly. I just needed to get slightly above the balance point before the shift. I was out of biking because of my ex-wife, for about 10 years. Now, clutching it up on my ZX6R seems to make it come up too fast, but I think I just need to get the feel of this bike. Laying off & on the throttle brings it up sometimes, but not always, and I definately haven't perfected that yet. Planning to gear down with a larger rear sprocket. Would like to bring it up in 2nd gear at 35 - 40 (throttle only) and hopefully have a smoother rise to the balance point, and be able to ride it out from there.

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Originally posted by psyclone

if it's your first wheelie it could be the sound of you shitting your pants
ROFL... speaking from experience are ya psyc ??? Good post though.

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yeah, i remeber the first time I cranked my zx-6r hard comming up a slight hill in first gear....

i about shit my pants, chopped the throttle, then proceded to tell myself how much of a bad ass I was ;)

now if only someone else saw that....


I try and refrain from wheelies, to hard on the bike and I just dont have the money to repair it.....

wheelies without the clutch should be possible in first gear with stock gearing, it just take awhile to perfect the timing...and you need to sit up really stright and close to the back of the seat....

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question here, is it easier to ride one out if you are standing. It seems to me like it would be. I have not tried it like that yet. The only wheelie i can do is in 1st by bouncing it. I get sceared cause it comes up so fast. I dont wanna loop my baby. I dont know where the balance point is cause im too sceared to keep it coming up. I dont like not having skin, but i also like doing wheelies. Please post some tips for me.:D

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Yeah more weight in the back = Easier to get it up. I think someone talked about bein able to get it up in 3rd standing?

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Your probably thinking of "wheelie pimp" I guess he is the one who does the third gear wheelies. He says that a third gear wheelie is possible on a new 03 stock!

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With my gearing I can power up 4th, but 1 down 10 up is kinda drastic [:p] 3rd gear stock on the 636 is awesome, once that ram air kicks in it's all over. 00-02 would be really hard stock in third gear. Could proably do it with clutch and a lot of bounce. For just second gear wheelies I like 1-3 up, should be able to get third gear with that gearing too. I'm all about the slow wheelies now though.

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BTB = Wheelie Gods...Pimp how you suggest I start to learn to wheelie? I have bounced the front up in 1st real easy but it all happens real fast and feels out of control, and I drop it pretty fast. Should I try some clutch action maybe in second? Should I try bouncing it up at speed in second by standing and pulling back? It seems like clutching it up looks like one of the most controlled ways of doing it. I'm stock geared. Thanks!

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My fairings are so cracked and broken just wanted to do something else besides fur [:eek:)] I actually just got sponsored by our local Kawi dealer so I'll probably be getting some fairings soon.

I always suggest that people learn sitdowns in 1st before they try anything else. 2nd gear might be a little smoother but you have a greater chance of looping. 1st gear gets you all the throttle control you will ever need. Ride first gear out in the balance point with really smooth throttle control then you can move on from there.
 

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A stock 6R will come up in 3rd doing standups. Its alot harder than 2nd but once you get them down its just the same as 2nd to me. Thats all with stock gearing. With all the stuff I have done to my bike now it comes up in 3rd @100-110 like nothing, and 2nd gear comes up really easy. But Im selling my bike and getting away from all the high speed stuff and switching to stunting full time.

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hey wheelie pimp i have a 03 zx6 and i can get it up sometimes in first on a good day.im in sierra vista az, about 4 thousand feet above sea level. kills the hell out of bikes. i was wondering what was your technique for wheeling. im riding stock right now.[V]
 
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