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I have 2000 6R, I've enjoyed every minute of riding it for last 2 years without any complaints. For some reason, I could not stop staring at the new 636, and so I was debating what color I would get in the past week. Today I went to a local dealer to get some numbers on a new bike and to trade in my bike. There I ran into more confusion, after seeing R1 and 954. Something tells me why stay with 600cc? How much difference will 636 give me from my 6R. If I'm trading in just for the new looks, I'm wasting a lot of money. When I came back home, I called insurance company and the rate on those liter bike wasn't bad comparing from 6. What do you guys think??

Oh, the new ducati 999 is beautiful(19k OTD)
 

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I like the GSXR750. I think I am too cheap to buy anything new. Insurance is not a consideration for me because it will be $79 per year no matter what I ride. It has everything I want, good speed, good handling, good brakes, reliability. I also think the ZX-9R's are much underrated and cheap. They haven't changed them much over the years and a '98 will perform about as good as a '02.
 

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yeah, GSXR750 is an incredible machine. my buddy had 2000 model and it was keeping up with my ninja reaching only 5000rpm while i was up 8-9000rpm. when i was riding it in local streets, i thought i was taking easy and cruising, but speed was reading 90mph. it's fast bike. but i would like to consider something new to my eye. cant wait to see the ninja 10R....
 

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I think that my 6R is great. Where are you going to get to use more power than what a 6R has to offer outside the track!?! 600's and 1000's performance ratings aren't as far off from each other as they seem.

That being said, I'm also guilty of believing that there is no replacement for displacement! I am probably going to wait and see what Kawasaki has in store with this ZX10R concept. If I'm not mistaken, it's due sometime in '04? I think the concept looks good, but it's already obsolete. Just look at the changes in the 6R. There's no way that it's going to come around looking like that. It will be 'old' by then.

As for the 999, I'm happier pretending to myself that Ducati didn't make that mistake, and that the 998's are still their flagships. Ugh. It makes me tingle down to my jibblies just thinking about it...

Michael

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It's a matter of preference. I've had from an FZR400RR to a ZX12R and I always go back to 600's. It depends a lot on the type of riding you do but then again it depends on too many things. Do you want the bike to pose or to ride it to it's full or almost full potential? If you're an agressive rider, the liter bike will get you in trouble faster than the 600. If you plan on doing track days, the 600cc and 1000cc bikes are ridden diferently also.

As for me, I like the 600's because I can ride the hell out of them and keep up with any liter bike as long as the straights aren't too long or speeds aren't above 155-160MPH.
 

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Here's my two cents if you care to listen. For most people, a 600 is the bike that will make them quickest. 750's are good for people who are capable of really driving the thing, I mean REALLY driving it. Litre bikes make most people slower in anything but a straight line, and let's face it, a monkey can drive a straight line so really what do you have to brag about.

I got an opportunity to ride a Gixxer 1000 this year for a day, and I gotta tell ya, I couldn't WAIT to get back on my 600. The thing has TOO much unusable power for the kind of driving I like to do, and even though it is actually a very light bike, it justs takes too much focus and concentration on getting the power down without overkill whereas on my 600 I come out of a corner and pretty much blast the thing out.

Don't believe me ? Ride one...

Here's some more food for thought. The guy who let me ride his Gixxer came out with us a few times, and we did some drags... just 1/4 mile drags, nothing more. By the time he could finally get the thing on the pipe, we had such a big lead on him on our 600's that it wasn't till WAY after the quarter that he was able to get us. And in typical riding, that's too late - we're already into the next corner. You just gotta baby it so much off the line that a 600 can scream it and pull huge holeshots off ya... trust me we've proven it... and I find that when the 1000cc riders find they're behind, they try even harder to lay down power, lift the wheel, slide, whatever, and can't get it down smooth. If you're running down a freeway or doing 1mile drags (yawn), then yeah, 600's would be toast.

I think the Gixxer 750 is the ultimate compromise (handles like a 600, not quite the overbearing power of the 1000). But I think the new 636 is going to be very close to the 750 for run, since it's way up on torque on any other 600, and revs to the moon (16,000rpm anyone?).

I just discovered that after riding the "beast" 1000, I'll take my 600 class any day, they're just more usable and way more fun and a lot less work. In fact, check out track times between open class and 600 sportbike class (where 600's are even more limited to parts, etc - DOT tires for eg.) - on lots of tracks there's only a tick between them even with PROS on board both...

There are people in the world who can truly ride the 1000, and I'm sure as hell not one of 'em. Even the magazines say the 750 might be the ultimate sportbike. But I just love the new 636. It's horny.

Just my humble opinion of course.
 

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the 2003 triumph daytona TT600! what u guys think about it? i think it's looks really similar to the 00-02 zx6r's. with some new stuff and twist to it, kinda like it... and if i can afford it, i possibly want a ducati 748 or some sort of aprilla. i may just keep the ninja and get a 350z... yeahhh.
 

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I think im gonna pay off me 2001 ZX6R and go for a 2004 636, wait till they work all the bugs out the first year. Did you know the second year the R1 came out it had 150 changes, mostly minor stuff but im never sold on the first year anything comes out. I love the look and all the new changes to the 2003 ZX6R!

off like a prom dress!
 

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Local dealer has a new 2000 ZX9R for $8800. I was thinking I wanted more power then I think how I toast cars that have more power then my 193HP GTI VR6 and it's all about skills not flat out power. I think the ZX6R 2002 looks awesome. Eliminator kit and pipe then I will chill.

Going to enjoy the 02 ZX6R<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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I'm undecided if I want to pick up another Magna to replace the one that got killed in '98, or if I should move on to something else.

The new SV650S speaks to me in my sleep. The old one does too, but I prefer bikes with FI.

Then there's the Honda 919. Nice. FI also, so its all good. Would definately need a coat of blue paint, though.

Its a tough call. The Honda's are both in the same price range, and the SV is considerably cheaper. I guess it all depends on how much money I have in my pocket, and who plans on giving me the best deal.

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I don't think I'll be getting rid of my 6R any time soon, the bike just screams, "Look at me I'm sexy!! And every single one of you know it!!". But for the fun of it, I would get the new ZX-636 in black, or if they had it, green. if I had to go bigger, I'd get either the new ZX-7 (because I dig that orange color), or possibly an R1 (love the new styling). If money was no object, MV Agusta F4 or Binelli Tornado. I think both of these bikes are just beautiful.

Ken - Yellow '02 R
 

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Has anyone ridden a cruiser after a sportbike? I was also thinking to get ducati monster or suzuki SV650. I think cruisers have to be v-twin. I know if I was to buy one of these, I'll have to keep my ninja for a scream machine. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
 

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Hey Ken... your bike does look sexy kinda good... but you mentioned possibly a ZX-7R ???

Dayam man, it's slower than a 2002 ZX-6R, and almost 100 full pounds heavier than the new '03 ZX-6R with basically the same power peak and doesn't rev nearly as high. On top of that, the design is over 10 years old !!!

I've never understood why so many people are in love with this tank, errr, bike... maybe it's just me, but that thing's a heavy slug of an old dinosaur.

To each his own, but in my very humble opinion, your current bike is SOOOOOOOO much nicer than a ZX-7R. I'd stick with it.
 

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Hey Ken... your bike does look sexy kinda good... but you mentioned possibly a ZX-7R ???

Dayam man, it's slower than a 2002 ZX-6R, and almost 100 full pounds heavier than the new '03 ZX-6R with basically the same power peak and doesn't rev nearly as high. On top of that, the design is over 10 years old !!!

I've never understood why so many people are in love with this tank, errr, bike... maybe it's just me, but that thing's a heavy slug of an old dinosaur.

To each his own, but in my very humble opinion, your current bike is SOOOOOOOO much nicer than a ZX-7R. I'd stick with it.
I had a ZX7R it was a Tank but was solid as a rock on the straights. I was more confident on straights than the ZX6R, Which is the better bike ZX6R by far. 100x more comfortable and just as fast. Much more manuverable in traffic easier wheelies. Flat out spped though the zx7R is fast as shit. On speed channel the zx7r races 1000 twins and ducaties. Comentators say the zx7 is faster on the straights but just can't put the power down in the turns. Real world 6r fake world 7R
 

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The ZX-7 style is just cool to me. It was the original reason I went to the Kawi dealer when I was looking for a bike. I then saw this gorgeous yellow thing staring back at me and I knew that it was the one. I know that the 7 is a tank, I just really like the styling. I like the styling of the 96, 97 GSX-R 750's also but everyone I know rides a Gixxer. I get tired of seein 'em around here. And I've gotta admit, I dig that new orange color. I saw one sittin out front of the dealer here and it's got an awesome metallic flake in it (much like my '02 six). As of now though, I'm in love (or is it lust <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) with my 6, and it'll suit me well for the next few years.

Ken - Yellow '02 R
 

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Keep in mind the ZX7R's you see racing world superbike or ama superbike are not exactly showroom stuff, VR6. It's a superbike team, those things are in fact no longer much of anything like the showroom bikes. With all the aftermarket parts they're actually running an AWFUL lot lighter and faster in order to make that bike competitive. So yeah, the ZX7R can still be competitive with the ducks and the gixxers... but I mean who can afford a superbike kit for their bike. As they come out of the crate, they're lunch meat against today's sportsbikes...

But in their day, they were likely one of the hottest bikes around, I understand that. So was the Honda Interceptor. Honda doesn't make it any longer. I'm sure they'd sell a bunch if they did though.
 

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I would love the new Z1000 as a naked streetfighter and then maybe the 636R, both in Black with Red accents. I look forward thought to the rumored ZX10. I have no intentions, at least anymore, to get rid of 2000 6R. She's kawi green, smooth and quik....of course faast enuff for me and reliable. Except for the lack of a gas light..so what of I have a reserve tank....ne thing is better than conking out at a streetlight unexpectedly, pullin off da road for 30 sec until reserve tank kicks in. I too will hold off for the second year of the "awesome sexy I am naughty" and will blow away most 600's 636R. Next season, I will enroll in track riding school and learn to REALLY use my 6R and enhance my new skills of sportriding.

Ride safe but embrace the speed.

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Keep in mind the ZX7R's you see racing world superbike or ama superbike are not exactly showroom stuff, VR6. It's a superbike team, those things are in fact no longer much of anything like the showroom bikes. With all the aftermarket parts they're actually running an AWFUL lot lighter and faster in order to make that bike competitive. So yeah, the ZX7R can still be competitive with the ducks and the gixxers... but I mean who can afford a superbike kit for their bike. As they come out of the crate, they're lunch meat against today's sportsbikes...

But in their day, they were likely one of the hottest bikes around, I understand that. So was the Honda Interceptor. Honda doesn't make it any longer. I'm sure they'd sell a bunch if they did though.
Very true! True confession. If the ZX7 was not such a tank and a bit more comfortable I would go for it. It's bad ass!!! Say it ZX7R
 

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I have a 93 Kat 600 right now, selling that as we speak and Im definetly getting a 2000, 01 ZX6R (green of course, faster) and then after that Im looking at getting the newer 03 ZX636R....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Future '00 6R owner
 
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