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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 07-15-2019, 04:36 AM
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Half a gallon should be plenty if you are using the reserve position.

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how old is the fuel?

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About a week old and that same fuel stars the bike up fine when put directly into the throttle bodies do I need tyke air box on to start the bike ?
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I'd get the airbox back on and retry........you are reporting fuel, air and spark, and answer "not a problem" for every possibility I've brought up.

Aside from the reported neglect, did you do any electrical work, part removal, mods or anything to precipitate the issue?

At this point, I'd suggest referring to the service manual which should provide a point by point troubleshooting path.

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There were some aftermarket LEDs from China that I removed off of the bike when I bought it that I figured that could be contributing to an electrical issue but they're off the bike and off the battery so I really don't think it's an electrical issue I'm going to put the airbox on on and give it a try hopefully that's it and then I guess I'll just have to refer to you the service manual
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So I got the bike running for a bit but them it died unless I poured fuel down this nipple on the throttle body which had a hose on my bike but not in the pic here from the service manual. My question is what is that nipple for? Is it connected to the fuel tank in any way? Also both hoses on the left side of the fuel tank are gone im assuming those are like overflow h
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Also what is the proper idle speed adjustment I cant find that anywhere in the service manual
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can you explain these missing hoses you report? Did YOU remove them, or a previous owner?

In any event, its obvious... hands have been in the throttle body/fuel system...you've got a manual, you need to review and assure everything is where it belongs. Stop trying for the miraculous quick fix by added fuel....look for the root problem. Very likely those previous hands disconnected or removed something critical.

Precisely what manual are you using? Surprising that idle speed procedure is not there. And a proper, step by step diagnostic...eliminating point by point and progressively getting more in depth....to reveal again....the root of the problem as opposed to temporary shooting of fuel into open barbs. Like the use of "starting fluid"...that is NOT a fix, nor proper diagnostic procedure.

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Ok so I switched out the new fuel filter with the orginal one (used the new filter tho just switched out the pumps) still no luck I hear it turning on and the fi's are spraying what should I do now
how can you report "FI's spraying" and also report the bike only running when fuel is manually sprayed into that barb?

Something not adding up here.

Ok, so specifically what manual are you using?

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You might be in over your head here bc this doesnt make a lot of sense

You said it starts and runs on starter fluid which means you have spark. But then you said you confirmed that the fuel is getting sprayed into the cylinders? So you don't have spark now but you did before?

Bc if you have both and its not working its probably going to be your compression
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