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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-05-2013, 11:28 PM
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When I had my 650 I liked to get off the side a little and lean into the turns. I felt more comfortable doing that than just staying on the seat and counter steering. Here's a video of me riding some twisties to give ya an idea. I'm the one in the front wearin red just to let ya know and sorry in advance for the quality, its not the best.

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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2013, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by k2m View Post
Thanks much for your detailed responses. I do have a few more questions :-)

Someone mentioned that you have to "lean" more into turns. I race bicycles on the road and that is something I miss a bit in the twisty descents. My bicycle is about 90% lean, 10% countersteer. The 650 feels about 80% counter steer, 20% lean. If if I got a little bit more lean in that mix, I think I would enjoy the turns even more. Any comment on that aspect wrt to the 650 ?

What will I use the bike for ? I could see myself doing some track days but maybe for my own rider education not so much for racing and it would be occasional.

Riding position: the ss riding position is closer to what I have on my road race bicycle, so I think it would be fairly natural. (I've never ridden one, but when I sit on one at the dealer, it feels pretty comparable.)

One more thing..I will be using the bike for commuting and some short touring (maybe one or two days trips), not just completely RR riding in the mountains nearby, so it needs to be able to do that - at least carry a tank bag or rear seat top bag.

Based on this info, I'm wondering if there are more comments ?
Ninja 1000 is your answer , specially for two day touring trips , ouch ...

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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-06-2013, 12:24 AM
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I havent ridden a 600 yet but I do have clipons on my 650 now. Steering is different. With big bars you can just manhandle the bars and the bike will tip in. With clip ons you have to brace yourself a bit, lean more and push the bars more. You def have to commit more to lines and turns. The upside is instead of feeling like you are perched on top of the bike and kind of just along for the ride, you feel more connected and integrated. I took my bike out to the twisties a few weeks back I loved it.

Again I havent ridden a 600 but I feel like for the street something with more low end + midrange torque would be better. 650 is OK in that regard but it gets really shakey and juddery around ~3-4K. I think the Ninja 1000 would be a good upgrade... shame it's so damn ugly though.

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