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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-10-2013, 02:00 PM Thread Starter
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ZX6R J2 (2001) won't start...

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Got a zx6r that won't start. I have had the bike for a few years and no problems with it whatsoever. A couple of weeks ago it wouldn't start. The starter motor works but the engine will not turn over. It has been in the garage for about 5 or 6 weeks, prior to that it was running fine.

The battery is good. I have a good charge.
The fuel in the tank is good.
I have compression and my hand smells of petrol when I put my hand on the exhaust whilst starting.
I replaced the sparkplugs and the old ones were black and a bit damp.
I took the carbs out to clean it and check the jets and needles and noticed that 2 carbs had about a tablespoon of fuel in the float chamber. The carbs was very clean and the jets and needles were good too. The fuel inlet needle is in good shape and still has a good cone on it.

I put the carbs back in, reconnected everything...tried to start and still...nothing! Starter motor works but the engine will not turn over. I can't figure this one out.

Any ideas?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-10-2013, 05:46 PM
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Put it in second gear, pull the clutch lever in and see if it will jump-start.

Have someone helping to push it on flat land, or by yourself down a slight grade. After you get it rolling let out the clutch slowly, with the key turned to the on position.

When I bought my 2008 ZZR600 it had sat for months and would not turn over. A new battery did not help. It took some rolling back and forth with it in gear to break the engine or starter loose.

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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-11-2013, 06:32 AM Thread Starter
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I tried to bumpstart it several times, no luck. Bike just comes to a stop without starting...i will check the fuel and sparkplugs next....
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I tried to bumpstart it several times, no luck. Bike just comes to a stop without starting...i will check the fuel and sparkplugs next....
When you pull the spark plugs, check and see if you have spark while cranking. The leads are pretty short and hard to get maneuvered to get a good ground on the frame. I had the most success with cylinder 2.
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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-12-2013, 12:31 PM
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check the starter solenoid could be shot inside but the fuse could still be ok
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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-15-2013, 01:43 PM Thread Starter
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well....i checked the fuel flow and there is fuel being fed to the carbs from the tank so I don't think that is the problem.

Pulled the inner 2 sparkplugs out and checked them, I have a good blue spark from them. Will check the outer 2 tomorrow. Haven't looked at starter solenoid yet, will look tomorrow too.

If I don't succeed with this tomorrow it's going in the garage on tuesday.
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-17-2013, 03:05 PM Thread Starter
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Checked all 4 plugs, all are good. Checked all fuses (including starter) and none are broken. If the starter solenoid is shot surely the actual starter motor wouldn't work?

I tried bump starting it again a few times but still no luck.
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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-17-2013, 03:16 PM
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You need fuel, spark, and air to run. You seem to have fuel, you have spark for sure. Is it getting enough air? Are you sure your getting the right amount of fuel?

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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-20-2013, 12:58 PM Thread Starter
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PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

As a last resort I drained all the fuel and put fresh fuel in....and it started after trying hard with the starter motor. I had some white smoke when it did start so the only thing I can think of is that either the fuel that I had was contaminated or had water in it. Anyhow...it's working well now! Thank you all for your help!
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 12-24-2013, 10:15 AM
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FYI, don't take advice from Jeff again. You don't fucking push start a vehicle that has a perfectly working starter motor. He has no fucking clue what he's talking about, but you'll come to see he likes to chime in anyway.

My bike has been sitting since my accident in September. My dumb ass never added Sta-bil because I kept troubleshooting my electrical issue and time just got away from me. The first thing I'm going to do is drain the old gas, then I'll pull the carbs. All too many people go straight to spark plugs for whatever reason when a bike won't start after sitting for over a month. Especially when it comes to a bike with carbs, look at fuel and fuel delivery before plugs and such. I've never had a time where spark plugs solved the problem. They don't foul from just sitting, they foul overtime and generally give you sputtering to let you know when they're about done, BUT the bike will still normal start fine. Under load it tends to have issues. Bike sits = bad fuel or gummed up carbs. If you think the bike will sit for more than two weeks, dump Sta-bil in there. I had a customer come to me with a 1988 Honda VT600 that sat for almost three years with Sta-bil in the tank (so he claimed). He needed a new battery, oil change, and carb cleaning and that old bike fired right up without hesitation on that old fuel. Spark plugs were put in just before he gave up on it and left it in storage.

I'm glad your problem didn't cost you much money though. That's always a good thing.

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